Dear Family!
Guess what! We had a baptism! Ondrej got baptized!! Oj.. so much to
tell! Where do I even begin?? Ok well Ondrej moved to Lanskrona and we
thought.. well good bye Ondrej. But President called on Thursday and
said "if he still wants to get baptized we can make it happen." We
knew that Ondrej would be coming back once a month so we called up
Janette on Friday and found out Ondrej was coming home that evening.
So we called president back and said he is home this weekend. Should
we set up a date for him to be baptized next time he comes home?
President said... Why not get baptized this Sunday? uhh.. ok. Yikes!
This was Friday night at 10. So we called up Janette and asked her if
Ondrej would like to be baptized this Sunday. She translated and in
the background I heard a deep voice say "YAH! YAH! YAH!" :) She
laughed and said Yes! He does!
A baptism is not always the easiest thing to plan. I feel like
often when we help people take the steps towards baptism often times
they get cold feet right towards the end.. and it is just stress those
last few moments. With Ondrej, he was completely ready. But there
always needs to be stress in planning a baptism sooo.. of course we
planned one last minute. We called up our branch president and he
said.. sounds wonderful. Why don't we do it at 10 am before church
starts.
You would think.. you have all Saturday to prepare.. no problem.
Well! Saturday we actually had a stake youth activity in our chapel.
And guess who was in charge of the first 3 hours. Me and Syster
Werjefelt. (If sys Vistaunet is reading this... It is her fault ;)
Well we had planned and decided to do a bunch of different team
working stations with the kids. I am SOOO glad I was a counselor at
Badger Creek. All those skills have come in so handy multiple times
on my mission.. especially this time. So Saturday morning we woke up
and headed to the church after our studies and help got all the
stations ready. We had the zone leaders and our district leaders
(missionaries) also coming up to help out. We had 5 different
stations and we hoped to have around 4 groups of 10 kids.
I cant believe how well it went. We really were not as planned
as we could have been.. and none of the other missionaries knew what
they were doing till about 30 minutes before hand. We were also
really worried about how many kids would show up. I was really
worried it would be lame and there would be only 20 kids or something.
And as the clock struck 1 pm and we began the activity there was only
about 20. But!! As usual with Mormon Standard time... we had about 50
kids total. The day went AWESOME!! from 1-4 we did our different
stations (I will send pictures to better show what the different
activities were) and then we set up the gym for dinner and then the
young woman would take over and they would have a dance and a movie
going. By the time we sat down for dinner..I was tired!
A big goal with this activity was to #1 strengthen the youth #2
give the youth an opportunity to invite friends!! We had about 6 or 7
friends at the activity. At dinner I sat down next to a youth in my
ward named Philip (coolest kid ever!) and his friend who he had
invited to the activity Daniel. As we sat and talked about his life
and what he thought about the activity.. we ended up talking about
religion and God. He seemed to be a deep thinker and really liked to
study religion. I had the chance to invite him to learn more and he
said ya! why not. We are going to meet up on Friday at Philip's home.
:) !!!!
After dinner we took our District Leaders over to Ondrej's house.
We taught him about fasting and then he was interviewed by Elder
Hinkson. That night I was wiped out!
There were of course a few other complications before the
baptism took way.. But everything turned out wonderful. Ondrej got
baptized at 10:08 and was as happy as could be. He is such a sweet man
and is easily touched by the spirit. Syster Werjefelt and I sang
"Nearer my God to Thee" as a musical number. (I've never had so many
opportunities to practice my singing and preform.. I am going to miss
that when I go home... I told sys Werjefelt this morning that I want
to sing "Blott en dag"--a Swedish song for my home coming and that she
should come and sing it with me ;) I realized as we began singing
that it was in fact the perfect song for Ondrej. He always told us
that he really wanted to get baptized so that he could come closer to
God. He was willing to pay tithing and live the word of wisdom,
chastity etc so that he could come closer to God. Nothing was ever a
problem for him.
So the baptism went wonderful... but I think my favorite part of
the day wasn't the baptism. It was testimony meeting when Ondrej got up
to bear his testimony. Janette got up to translate for him. He told
the branch about how when he first heard that his daughter had joined
a new church he wasn't very positive or interested. As time went he
would always leave when the missionaries came and her home teachers.
But he kept asking her questions about the church. She would explain
but he never understood. So she finally just gave him a Book of Mormon
and said--here! Read it! He took the book and began reading. At
first he did so in private and was a little embarrassed about it. But
as he read more and more he realized.. that this book was Gods word.
And so he began to read it all the time. He said he read it every
morning and night. This is where I came into the story. As sys V and
I would come we would always ask him where he was in the Book of
Mormon.. he was first in Mosiah, then in Alma, and then 3 Nephi! He
had been asked several times before hand "Would you like to be
baptized" But he said no at first, then said.. maybe,... then someday
I will. And so when we asked him to get baptized.. he knew and he was
ready and so excited. He said in his testimony that he read the Book
of Mormon every day. He is now in Ether and when he is done with the
book he will start over again. As he tried to share his feelings about
how when came to this church he felt the spirit like never before in
other church's--he began to tear up and could not express his feelings
of gratitude for his chance to be baptized.
Even though I cant talk with this man and don't know very much
about him.. You can feel the change within him. Janette said "He has
changed soo much!"
:)
You have probably heard enough from me today. So many more things
happened this week but I don't have the time to write them all in my
journal every night let alone in an email once a week!
To end last night we were at a family's home for dinner and family
home evening. We ended up talking a little about the 3 Nephites and
also about what the father missed most about his mission. The 3
Nephites get to be missionaries 24/7 for the rest of the earths time.
And this father missed most getting to serve the Lord 24/7.
I often times have hard moments and don't feel like I am really all
that great.. I make tons of mistakes. It is also hard hard work
mentally being a missionary. But I too LOVE LOVE LOVE getting to be a
servant for the Lord. Remember that even though you are not doing it
with a name tag on.. you too can be a servant of the Lord every day.
There is nothing better :)
LOVE Syster Schneiber II
PS. Sys Werjefelt and I have committed and written down that we-- for
the rest of the year will not eat dessert/sugar !!
Monday, October 22, 2012
Oct. 8: General Conference: "Ask the Missionaries"
I LOVE BEING A MISSIONARY FOR THE LORD! :)
Well... It was basically Christmas for me this past week. I love having general conference. During the Saturday morning session Sys Werj and I were sitting in the computer room with a woman from America and another wonderful older fellow watching it in English. When President Monson announced the change in age for guys and girls to go on missions ... It was like Santa had personally walked into the room. It was so exciting. I can't believe how different that would have made my life if it had come out when I was 19. I know that God is watching out for each and everyone of us and I really feel like it was the perfect time for me to go when I was 21. If I went when I was 19 I don't think I would have gotten into the nursing program and wouldn't have been able to go to Jerusalem and maybe not even be a counselor for Badger Creek and wouldn't have had the amazing roommates I had etc. Of course maybe these things could have happened when I came back.. but It was all perfect timing for me and guided by a Heavenly Father who loves me.
For Sys Werjefelt it is a little different! She is on a short term mission because she is only 19. BUT NOW!! things are different :) So she has some big decisions to make. Life is exciting.
I loved listening to Nelson's talk "If you don't know what to do about.... ask the missionaries!" It was exciting to sit there and think.. wow He is talking about me! Am I really ready to answer all those questions? Can I really help people with family history? Marital problems? etc.??? Yikes! But I know that our message can solve all problems and I know the Lord's spirit is with me every step of the way. SO! Bring on the problems! Let's test it out with the gospel message!
(christa: I watched some talks in Swedish and I was sooo surprised how much I understood! The first conference i couldn't understand anything in Swedish.. second was better.. this was no problem at all. but it is still way better in English)
I came to conference with a few questions. One major question is what do I do when I go home and I am not a missionary!? How do I keep being a missionary? These are the two answers I got... 1. Serving people is the most important ever (and the biggest part of service is inviting people to come unto Christ). 2. Follow the spirit Especially when it is inconvenient and uncomfortable (it usually causes the best results :)
What did you all learn/what answers did you get? (CRAZY that i will be home next conference!)
So many small and yet amazing miracles happened this week.. but I just cant write them all! So I hope you can get a feel for how my week was with just a few:
This week syster Werjefelt showed me a scripture that means a lot to her that helped her through a period of time when she was sick. Doctrine and Covenants chapter 101 verse 36-38
We had the chance to go to a less active who is now in Hospice care (terminal illness where people go before they are going to die). A member told us that he wanted us to visit after he had received a letter we had written him a few weeks ago. We had gone to visit him but he wasn't home so we left him a letter. Well we showed up and talked to him a bit and then Sys W asked if she could read the scripture to him. He responded a little hard and said "No.. I'm not in the right mood for that." She was a little bit taken aback but said okej and we kept talking to him and getting to know him more. As we spoke further to him about his life and his sickness he finally softened up and asked her if she would read it. As she read it a strong feeling came to me that this was the perfect scripture for him to hear. His eyes closed and his body seemed to soften and he seemed to look more peaceful. I had the opportunity to say the closing prayer. Even though I cant give blessings.. I felt as though I searched for the words that God would have him hear. It was a beautiful experience. As we went to leave he looked at us with happier eyes and thanked us for coming.. "it really uplifted me". He said he would like to take the missionary lessons again once he gets back into his home. That was a powerful experience for me.
fear not even unto death....care not for the body, neither the life of the body; but care for the soul, and for the life of the soul....ye may possess your souls, and ye shall have eternal life.
Another really neat experience this past week happened Monday night. Sys Werjefelt felt like it would be good to take our young single adults and our New convert to the young adult center in Lund (40 mins away by train). It was Sunday night and we were trying to plan. I was a little bit skeptic and at first kept trying to give other ideas. A thought popped into my head.. "Sys Schneiber, be humble and support the ideas of your companion.. she receives revelation also." So I said OK lets do it.
Well Monday came and we got off the train in Lund and found out all of our friends bailed on us! ugg.. That is one thing I am going to try to do when I go back home.. Try not to cancel on people. But it happens. So we were standing there at train station trying to make some decisions. Should we 1. go back home and try and meet with a few other people? we will have about an hour and a half of time before we have to be home. 2. stay at the center and go to their family home evening activity.
problem with staying at the center was.. we really are not supposed to be there unless we have an investigator. We had this one random guy though named nick. Nick is from Romania and we met him sys W's first day on the train back from Stockholm. He sat down and turns out he had met missionaries in Romania and had played sports with them and stuff.. He told us that his mom and dad had died from cancer (he is about 25?) and that is why he has a hard time believing in god. But he doesn't drink and smoke and he wants good friends. Well he called us Sunday night also and we told him that we would be in Lund if he wanted to come meet us. So... maybe he would come. Maybe.
There we stood. The train back to Kristianstad was there and we had the doors were getting ready to close. We both looked at each other.. what do we do!!??! Finally sys W said I don't really want to be at the center. I said me too, lets get on the train! But then she pulled my arm back.. but i feel like maybe we should be there.. we came all the way here.. nick might just come. I stopped. The doors closed.
And the train pulled away. Well! We have to stay here now at least for the next hour till our next train comes. SO we smiled and headed to the center.
Long story short. Nick showed up and it was a great evening! Nick really enjoyed getting to know all the youth and wants to come back.
There was more I wanted to share.. but I'm all pooped out.
LOVE YOU ALL!
Syster Schneiber II
Find people who need service and bring them closer to Christ
Well... It was basically Christmas for me this past week. I love having general conference. During the Saturday morning session Sys Werj and I were sitting in the computer room with a woman from America and another wonderful older fellow watching it in English. When President Monson announced the change in age for guys and girls to go on missions ... It was like Santa had personally walked into the room. It was so exciting. I can't believe how different that would have made my life if it had come out when I was 19. I know that God is watching out for each and everyone of us and I really feel like it was the perfect time for me to go when I was 21. If I went when I was 19 I don't think I would have gotten into the nursing program and wouldn't have been able to go to Jerusalem and maybe not even be a counselor for Badger Creek and wouldn't have had the amazing roommates I had etc. Of course maybe these things could have happened when I came back.. but It was all perfect timing for me and guided by a Heavenly Father who loves me.
For Sys Werjefelt it is a little different! She is on a short term mission because she is only 19. BUT NOW!! things are different :) So she has some big decisions to make. Life is exciting.
I loved listening to Nelson's talk "If you don't know what to do about.... ask the missionaries!" It was exciting to sit there and think.. wow He is talking about me! Am I really ready to answer all those questions? Can I really help people with family history? Marital problems? etc.??? Yikes! But I know that our message can solve all problems and I know the Lord's spirit is with me every step of the way. SO! Bring on the problems! Let's test it out with the gospel message!
(christa: I watched some talks in Swedish and I was sooo surprised how much I understood! The first conference i couldn't understand anything in Swedish.. second was better.. this was no problem at all. but it is still way better in English)
I came to conference with a few questions. One major question is what do I do when I go home and I am not a missionary!? How do I keep being a missionary? These are the two answers I got... 1. Serving people is the most important ever (and the biggest part of service is inviting people to come unto Christ). 2. Follow the spirit Especially when it is inconvenient and uncomfortable (it usually causes the best results :)
What did you all learn/what answers did you get? (CRAZY that i will be home next conference!)
So many small and yet amazing miracles happened this week.. but I just cant write them all! So I hope you can get a feel for how my week was with just a few:
This week syster Werjefelt showed me a scripture that means a lot to her that helped her through a period of time when she was sick. Doctrine and Covenants chapter 101 verse 36-38
"36 Wherefore, fear not even unto death; for in this world your joy is
not full, but in me your joy is full.
37 Therefore, care not for the
body, neither the life of the body; but care for the soul, and for the
life of the soul.
38 And seek the face of the Lord always, that in
patience ye may possess your souls, and ye shall have eternal life."
We had the chance to go to a less active who is now in Hospice care (terminal illness where people go before they are going to die). A member told us that he wanted us to visit after he had received a letter we had written him a few weeks ago. We had gone to visit him but he wasn't home so we left him a letter. Well we showed up and talked to him a bit and then Sys W asked if she could read the scripture to him. He responded a little hard and said "No.. I'm not in the right mood for that." She was a little bit taken aback but said okej and we kept talking to him and getting to know him more. As we spoke further to him about his life and his sickness he finally softened up and asked her if she would read it. As she read it a strong feeling came to me that this was the perfect scripture for him to hear. His eyes closed and his body seemed to soften and he seemed to look more peaceful. I had the opportunity to say the closing prayer. Even though I cant give blessings.. I felt as though I searched for the words that God would have him hear. It was a beautiful experience. As we went to leave he looked at us with happier eyes and thanked us for coming.. "it really uplifted me". He said he would like to take the missionary lessons again once he gets back into his home. That was a powerful experience for me.
fear not even unto death....care not for the body, neither the life of the body; but care for the soul, and for the life of the soul....ye may possess your souls, and ye shall have eternal life.
Another really neat experience this past week happened Monday night. Sys Werjefelt felt like it would be good to take our young single adults and our New convert to the young adult center in Lund (40 mins away by train). It was Sunday night and we were trying to plan. I was a little bit skeptic and at first kept trying to give other ideas. A thought popped into my head.. "Sys Schneiber, be humble and support the ideas of your companion.. she receives revelation also." So I said OK lets do it.
Well Monday came and we got off the train in Lund and found out all of our friends bailed on us! ugg.. That is one thing I am going to try to do when I go back home.. Try not to cancel on people. But it happens. So we were standing there at train station trying to make some decisions. Should we 1. go back home and try and meet with a few other people? we will have about an hour and a half of time before we have to be home. 2. stay at the center and go to their family home evening activity.
problem with staying at the center was.. we really are not supposed to be there unless we have an investigator. We had this one random guy though named nick. Nick is from Romania and we met him sys W's first day on the train back from Stockholm. He sat down and turns out he had met missionaries in Romania and had played sports with them and stuff.. He told us that his mom and dad had died from cancer (he is about 25?) and that is why he has a hard time believing in god. But he doesn't drink and smoke and he wants good friends. Well he called us Sunday night also and we told him that we would be in Lund if he wanted to come meet us. So... maybe he would come. Maybe.
There we stood. The train back to Kristianstad was there and we had the doors were getting ready to close. We both looked at each other.. what do we do!!??! Finally sys W said I don't really want to be at the center. I said me too, lets get on the train! But then she pulled my arm back.. but i feel like maybe we should be there.. we came all the way here.. nick might just come. I stopped. The doors closed.
And the train pulled away. Well! We have to stay here now at least for the next hour till our next train comes. SO we smiled and headed to the center.
Long story short. Nick showed up and it was a great evening! Nick really enjoyed getting to know all the youth and wants to come back.
There was more I wanted to share.. but I'm all pooped out.
LOVE YOU ALL!
Syster Schneiber II
Find people who need service and bring them closer to Christ
Oct 1: Simple Blessings
Hello FAMILY!
Glad to know you are all doing well otherwise and that the weather is good over there on the west side. I am loving life with my wonderful new companion sys Werjefelt. We laugh.. a lot. This week was a little bit slower than previous weeks. That's just how life is. So one afternoon when our whole evening plans changed we decided to go in search of a less active nearby us. Well as we started out on our bikes after looking at the map, I told sys W.. "I really think I am getting a better sense of direction since I first came here to Sweden."
10-15 mins later we are cycling down a long farm road in the middle of nowhere. We pull over and look at the map.. turns out I took us West instead of south! whoops! So we decided to just keep going that way and go see another less active instead. We couldn't stop laughing for a good while until we could get on our bikes again and start riding. Good thing sys W is patient and likes to laugh :)
We got to visit a less active named Per. He joined the church in his early 30's but became less active. One reason was due to GOLF. He likes to Golf a lot more then he likes to go to church :) As we came into his apt, he had a whole bunch of trophies up around the living room and his golf clubs in the corner. We had a great conversation and asked him if he would like to take the missionary lessons again to see if it helped him in his life. He said yes and that we could come back next week. I am excited to work with him and see if we can help him have a better life. But when you guys come to visit next summer.. he says he can take you out to all the golf places :) hahha
OH ya! I don't know if you remember a guy I taught in Jönköping named Johannes Strömberg. He was a less active that we started teaching. I talked to the missionaries there. Turns out he has taught gospel doctrine the past several weeks, is passing the sacrament, is a wonderful strong active member!!!! When I heard this... I cant even describe to you how I felt. SUPER happy! I didn't get to help anyone get baptized in Jönköping.. but I did get to help Johannes. :)
Even though this week was slower.. lots of simple blessings happened. One day we were coming home from a nearby town.. We didn't really have anything work out right while we were there.. but as we entered the train station we ran into Bao. He is a new member who is Chinese. We had lost him for the past month and he wouldn't return our phone calls. Turns out his phone was broken and we were able to set up another apt with him. see! Little miracles :)
Anther miracle happened on Sunday/Saturday. We got home on Saturday evening and got a phone call. One of the bishopric asked us if we could give talks tomorrow in church.. both 8 mins on the restoration. Sys Werjefelt was nervous about having so little time to prepare and give a talk. This was definitely the shortest time I was ever given. I really only had an hour the next morning to prepare. But I have been through enough experiences already to know that HF will help me be prepared to talk with the time given.
This doesn't mean that the one hour of preparation was that fun.. It is still not easy to write talks especially when you want to give a good talk. For me--I love personal experiences.. so I racked my mind for an experience that would go along with the restoration. I ended up deciding to focus my talk on God is our loving heavenly father and therefore he has given us prophets. I finally came up with the perfect story.
Mom do you remember that time that I asked for a body pillow? and then I forgot all about it. I went to aunt Nancy's for a week or so.. and then when you guys came to pick me up from the bus.. i got in the car and said "mom why don't you cook more home made food like aunt Nancy.." (or something really dumb like that).... I hurt your feelings and you ended up leaving the house for a little while. Well, I remember coming home and feeling terrible... and to make it even worse.. I walked into my room and there I found that body pillow I had asked for a while ago. You had remembered.
What a terrible daughter I was!
I chose this story because I talked about how even though I was a very ungrateful child and didn't deserve your love at all.. you still forgave me and continued to love me. That is just like Heavenly father. We do stupid and dumb things all the time.. He must have to take alot of long "heavenly" car rides to get away for the children for a time :) But he always keeps on loving us and is always there to take us back. And he has shown that throughout time as he has continued again and again to give the world a prophet.
And guess what!! we get to listen to the prophet this upcoming week!! I'M SO EXCITED!
(go to lds.org for those reading and who also want to see a prophet speak. Sunday and Saturday)
Well! That is all I have time for. The days are going fast and sooner then you know Ill be back home.. So you should all write me as much as you can !! :) Cuz there is nothing better than writing a missionary. You get blessings from God! ;)
Love Syster Schneiber II
PS. Mom: Our cute little Vietnamese investigator got sick this week..so we didn't get to meet her :( But I'll keep you updated on her. No there are not too many Vietnamese here. She is the only one I have met.
Glad to know you are all doing well otherwise and that the weather is good over there on the west side. I am loving life with my wonderful new companion sys Werjefelt. We laugh.. a lot. This week was a little bit slower than previous weeks. That's just how life is. So one afternoon when our whole evening plans changed we decided to go in search of a less active nearby us. Well as we started out on our bikes after looking at the map, I told sys W.. "I really think I am getting a better sense of direction since I first came here to Sweden."
10-15 mins later we are cycling down a long farm road in the middle of nowhere. We pull over and look at the map.. turns out I took us West instead of south! whoops! So we decided to just keep going that way and go see another less active instead. We couldn't stop laughing for a good while until we could get on our bikes again and start riding. Good thing sys W is patient and likes to laugh :)
We got to visit a less active named Per. He joined the church in his early 30's but became less active. One reason was due to GOLF. He likes to Golf a lot more then he likes to go to church :) As we came into his apt, he had a whole bunch of trophies up around the living room and his golf clubs in the corner. We had a great conversation and asked him if he would like to take the missionary lessons again to see if it helped him in his life. He said yes and that we could come back next week. I am excited to work with him and see if we can help him have a better life. But when you guys come to visit next summer.. he says he can take you out to all the golf places :) hahha
OH ya! I don't know if you remember a guy I taught in Jönköping named Johannes Strömberg. He was a less active that we started teaching. I talked to the missionaries there. Turns out he has taught gospel doctrine the past several weeks, is passing the sacrament, is a wonderful strong active member!!!! When I heard this... I cant even describe to you how I felt. SUPER happy! I didn't get to help anyone get baptized in Jönköping.. but I did get to help Johannes. :)
Even though this week was slower.. lots of simple blessings happened. One day we were coming home from a nearby town.. We didn't really have anything work out right while we were there.. but as we entered the train station we ran into Bao. He is a new member who is Chinese. We had lost him for the past month and he wouldn't return our phone calls. Turns out his phone was broken and we were able to set up another apt with him. see! Little miracles :)
Anther miracle happened on Sunday/Saturday. We got home on Saturday evening and got a phone call. One of the bishopric asked us if we could give talks tomorrow in church.. both 8 mins on the restoration. Sys Werjefelt was nervous about having so little time to prepare and give a talk. This was definitely the shortest time I was ever given. I really only had an hour the next morning to prepare. But I have been through enough experiences already to know that HF will help me be prepared to talk with the time given.
This doesn't mean that the one hour of preparation was that fun.. It is still not easy to write talks especially when you want to give a good talk. For me--I love personal experiences.. so I racked my mind for an experience that would go along with the restoration. I ended up deciding to focus my talk on God is our loving heavenly father and therefore he has given us prophets. I finally came up with the perfect story.
Mom do you remember that time that I asked for a body pillow? and then I forgot all about it. I went to aunt Nancy's for a week or so.. and then when you guys came to pick me up from the bus.. i got in the car and said "mom why don't you cook more home made food like aunt Nancy.." (or something really dumb like that).... I hurt your feelings and you ended up leaving the house for a little while. Well, I remember coming home and feeling terrible... and to make it even worse.. I walked into my room and there I found that body pillow I had asked for a while ago. You had remembered.
What a terrible daughter I was!
I chose this story because I talked about how even though I was a very ungrateful child and didn't deserve your love at all.. you still forgave me and continued to love me. That is just like Heavenly father. We do stupid and dumb things all the time.. He must have to take alot of long "heavenly" car rides to get away for the children for a time :) But he always keeps on loving us and is always there to take us back. And he has shown that throughout time as he has continued again and again to give the world a prophet.
And guess what!! we get to listen to the prophet this upcoming week!! I'M SO EXCITED!
(go to lds.org for those reading and who also want to see a prophet speak. Sunday and Saturday)
Well! That is all I have time for. The days are going fast and sooner then you know Ill be back home.. So you should all write me as much as you can !! :) Cuz there is nothing better than writing a missionary. You get blessings from God! ;)
Love Syster Schneiber II
PS. Mom: Our cute little Vietnamese investigator got sick this week..so we didn't get to meet her :( But I'll keep you updated on her. No there are not too many Vietnamese here. She is the only one I have met.
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